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CSM8 Status report: Week twenty-four

Where are the minutes?  Well, here's where we stand.

Of 25 total sessions:

• I've written six sessions (Introduction, Sales and Marketing, Team Kuromaku, Team Game of Drones, NDA Project Three, Hilmar);
• Trebor Daehdoow has written five sessions (PvE, CSM as Stakeholder, Security, Future Plans, Team True Grit);
• Ali Aras has written four session (EVE Economy, In-Class Homework Assignment, User Interface, NDA Project Two);
• mynnna has written three sessions (Reasonable Things, Team Superfriends, Team Five-0);
• Mike Azariah has written two sessions (Art, DUST 514 Link);
• Mangala Solaris has written one session (Language Support and the CSM); and,
• James Arget has written one session (Launcher).

There are three sessions without minutes, one of which might end up being permanently NDA'ed:

• State of Balance (being worked on by Chitsa Jason);
• Projects One, which is still heavily NDA'ed; and,
• EVE Valkryrie (being worked on by Ali Aras). 

In short, at this point CSM8 considers our work on the minutes  essentially done, other than pestering Chitsa and Ali to finish their  bits.  The Project One and Two sessions may never get written because so  much of them deals with things that won't be released until the summer  2014 expansion.  As a result, if they were written much of them would  end up reading like "CCP Fozzie then covered a series of subjects  which are currently under NDA.  The CSM agreed with three of them, then  asked for more information on two," et cetera.  It wouldn't make for very interesting reading, I'm afraid.

EDIT 24/Oct/2013: I have updated the list above to include two more summit sessions completed by Ali Aras.  First, the EVE Economy ended up being two sessions, the second of which was about an NDA'ed in-class homework assignment.  I'm not sure if it will ultimately end up getting NDA'ed, but I'll count it for now.  Second, she completed minutes on NDA Project Two.  The inclusion of the homework assignment technically means there were 25 sessions, not 24.  Thanks for the update, Ali!

I did go ahead and write a set of minutes for Project Three though, partially  so I could say I wrote more of the minutes than Trebor (hee!) and  partially because I do think CCP will announce this project sooner or  later and I'm very very excited about it.  Even if I have to wait  a while, I'll probably ask in due course to get those minutes  released.  Trebor will probably get back at me by writing minutes for  Project One or something under the same conditions.  ;-)

Speaking  of Trebor, he wrote a couple of really good things that you should go  out and read about the SOMER blink situation, one I describe as a good post and one that he literally described as a "shit post".  The latter is funnier.  The former makes better points and I quote his points in full:

• This issue is not going to be resolved quickly. The problem was a  long time in the making, and it will be months in the resolution, if for  no other reason than there are significant legal issues CCP has to take  into consideration. Furthermore, a quick resolution is unlikely to be  one you will like.
• Raging and repeating your position at every opportunity is not  constructive, and actively hurts your argument. All it does is sh*t up  the thread, and drown out other voices. If you want to be taken  seriously, you want to encourage broad discussion. Threads that have a  high percentage of posts by a small number of posters are not taken  seriously by anyone.
• The reason for the surveys -- both CSMs and CCPs -- is to gather  more data from more members of the community. CSM needs that data in  order to make the best possible arguments on your behalf; "the data  says" is a better argument than "the opinion of my ass is".

Yes, yes, and yes.  I agree with all three of these points.

The  situation with SOMER blink continues to be a topic of heavy discussions  between CCP and the CSM, and is one of the main reasons why the minutes  are being delayed.  Every member of the Community team including CCP Dolan are very much heads down on this matter.  However, that said, I did  remind him that he is the only member of that team that can get the  minutes out and he assured me he'd do everything he could to get the  first block of them released as soon as possible.

In addition to myself, Mangala Solaris and Kesper North were at EVE Vegas this past weekend (one of the reasons this post is a  couple of days later than it normally is).  While there, we all got  ample opportunities to talk face-to-face with a large percentage of the  350 attendees.  For those of you that joined us there, thank you!  And I  got to meet both Mangala and Kesper for the first time myself.  I  mentioned to the organizers that if I'm on CSM9 next year (far from decided, obviously) then I'd be willing to either give a talk or  run a round table at EVE Vegas next year about the CSM.  And if I'm not,  I'll see what I can do to convince those who are on CSM9 to do so.

We're about at the point when I wanted to have the next CSM Town Hall meeting and I'm going to go ahead and start to work with Neville Smit and DJ Wiggles to schedule something.  Even if we don't have minutes to point to yet  (although I dearly hope we do), it makes very good sense to meet with  all of you in an open session and let you air your concerns about the  SOMER blink giveaways and other matters.  First though, I want to chat  with Ali Aras some more because she had some very good ideas about the  Q&A portion of the meeting and I want to chat with her about them.   So look for that to be scheduled soon.

We're still very busy with CCP on the Skype channels and in the private forums.  This week, yet another surprise feature for Rubicon was announced and there just might be one more coming that the CSM has taken a keen interest in since  planning for Rubicon started.  And if you paid attention to the EVE  Vegas presentations, you've already heard about Ghost sites and the new  player-built(!) warp speed implants.

Finally, I keep forgetting to mention this, but James Arget continues to do a great job on the csm8.org website.  Go give it a visit.

That's all for now!  We're almost at the half-way point in our term!  The time is passing quicker than I thought it would...
Source: CSM8 Status report: Week twenty-four