Shadow of Cerberus
Public => EVE World News => Thema gestartet von: Aura am Mai 30, 2014, 08:00:03 Vormittag
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COTW: The sandbox
My post on the 24th looking back at the "Peace dec" has generated a huge discussion that's been really interesting to read. Thank you so much to everyone who has participated in that! I myself have been trying to stay out of the discussion because I find that when I get involved in such discussions directly, suddenly the discussion becomes about "Jester said X" as a thing unto itself... rather than what Jester said.(1) I'll have more to say about that specifically on Saturday.
But I can't resist pointing to two particular comments on that post that beautifully encapsulated an idea that's been kicking around my head since the whole Erotica 1 fiasco a couple of months ago. Speaking about the peace dec mechanic, one anonymous commenter said (edited slightly):
The peace dec IS PvP! - one group of players acting on another. It's just not the sort of PvP that you like.
And another(?) said (also edited slightly):
Peace Deccing actually is the ultimate PvP against PvP-minded players. It hits them right where it hurts - and completely non-consensually. Thus it fits perfectly within the ethos of EVE.
YES! Thank you! That's a really lovely way of putting it. And reading these two comments, it finally occurred to me what kind of sandbox EVE Online is. EVE isn't a PvP sandbox. It's a griefing sandbox.
Small-gang PvPers grief solo PvPers.
Big-gang PvPers grief small-gang PvPers.
PvP corps grief industrial and mission corps.
Big alliances grief small alliances.
Big coalitions grief big alliances.
Smart-ass forum posters grief serious forum posters.
Big "media sites" grief little "media sites".
Gankers grief solo players.
Big miners grief little miners.
Smart industrialists grief dumb industrialists.
Rich station traders grief poor station traders.
Bullies grief newbies and other ignorant players.
Scammers grief absolutely everybody.
And on and on and on and on and on, throughout any aspect of the game you care to name. EVE Online is a griefing sandbox. It's all PvP if you care to look at it that way. It's the only shared experience that every single one of us have.
(1) Examples: people saying that Jester must be seriously proposing peace decs even though I said twice I wasn't, or people saying that this is yet more proof that Jester hates non-consensual PvP even though I've said at least ten times this isn't true. Sometimes, I have no idea who this Jester person is that people talk about.
Source: COTW: The sandbox (http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/2014/05/cotw-sandbox.html)