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Public => EVE World News => Thema gestartet von: Aura am April 10, 2013, 11:02:11 Nachmittag
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Quote of the Week: Jump on them
Quote of the week honors goes to my fellow CSM8 candidate Malcanis, who dropped this gem while chatting on the Lost in EVE CSM8 debate with me on Sunday:
I don't believe everyone in high-sec is a carebear. I don't believe that everyone who doesn't PvP in high-sec is a care-bear... A lot of people have got an idea that it's one-sided, that they're not going to win, and their only real conception of PvP in EVE is someone basically jumping on them.
For the debate, I was paired up with Malcanis, Psychotic Monk, and progodlegend, which made it kind of an amusing group for me since I've endorsed all three of these candidates for various reasons. And I was pleased that all three did pretty good or better jobs at the debate. progod is still kind of feeling his way around what it would mean to be a CSM member, but I kinda suspect he'll have a whole year to figure this out...
That's such a lovely quote, though, that I had to reproduce it. The discussion was about the level of risk in high-sec and how CCP could adjust the level of risk there without breaking what EVE is. Malcanis has some very interesting ideas in this regard but it's the core of those ideas -- rather than the specifics -- that are really sound. There's a misconception floating around out there about the high-sec care-bear. While some of them directly choose to be high-sec care-bears, a lot more of them are forced into that choice by EVE itself and it's hard for them to break out of it.
Another excellent CSM8 candidate, Ali Aras, wrote up a whole piece on this choice and why she thinks some players make it. The full piece is definitely worth your time. Go give it a read. But she essentially agrees with this idea, and so do I. As she puts it, the early game doesn't teach you anything of what you need to know about EVE PvP and in today's game, attempting to learn on the fly is much more difficult and much more likely to just lead to a string of embarrassing loss-mails. "The net reward for risk-taking is demoralization and a sense that the game is unsafe, unfun, and unfair," she says. Yup.
Pay attention here, because this bit is important: this is why any attempt to "force" high-sec care-bears away from their chosen life-styles or attempts to make high-sec so unpleasant that they will voluntarily give up this way of playing EVE are doomed to failure:
- those who have directly chosen this life-style already know the alternatives and reject them; and,
- those who have been forced into this choice are not being given clear paths to any alternatives.
The first group is not going to give up their high-sec way of life no matter what you do to it. The second group is going to see their single alternative reduced to no alternatives and go play some other game instead.
I still believe CCP can and should greatly expand the potential audience for EVE Online but before they can, this issue is going to have to be addressed. I've already brought up the idea that the entire early-game NPE needs to be taken apart and rebuilt (something Ali agrees with). Hopefully CCP Seagull -- who's got to be staring this problem in the face by now -- will also have some ideas and I'll get a chance to go to Iceland and talk to her about them. ;-)
EDIT (10/Apr/2013): The original version of this post listed CCP Sunset instead of CCP Seagull. I regret the error. Imagine how often this is going to happen if I also have to remember all their real names, too...
If you haven't yet voted in the CSM8 election, please do so!
And feel free to go listen to the full Lost in EVE debate schedule. I might have said a few things of interest in there somewhere, too, as well as in the Voices from the Void candidate debates that I took part in a couple of weeks ago.
Source: Quote of the Week: Jump on them (http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/2013/04/quote-of-week-jump-on-them.html)